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Post by Mrs. Darth Vader on Feb 24, 2007 23:24:56 GMT -5
My foster mother was an athiest and I was brought up in public school. They always compared America to Rome. I got the impression that America did adopt Roman politics and military tactics.
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Post by trine on Mar 5, 2007 18:50:06 GMT -5
just to add a definiton to the word sith which is really ironic and funny as hell. "sith" in Irish and Scots Gaelic means "peace". i find that quite hillarious indeed.
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Post by tzaphoni on Mar 5, 2007 18:53:39 GMT -5
"Sith is a lie, there is only passion..." That is pretty funny.
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Post by sylux on Sept 10, 2007 14:09:27 GMT -5
SITH = CHAOS thats pretty much all you can say and its a ideal description of any Sith
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Post by darthkrunoseil on Sept 10, 2007 21:51:01 GMT -5
Christianity and the corrupted ruling tier killed the Roman Empire, Julian was the last hope, and was killed with a spear in the back from a christian. You are wrong Draco, clear and simple, I do not mean any disrespect, but Christianity was not the reason Rome fell, rome in itself was the reason it fell, why did Rome fall and Christianity stand? I admit in the past the church (lowercase c) has had completely and utterly corrupt leadership, but it still is that which holds the Church (capital C), the only difference between the two is that the church, lowercase, is the visible, that which can be seen, the Church, capital, is all who are true believers in Christ, and His promise to His people. The promise which is the only true path upon which true life can be found. Yes, Obi-wan was in a way correct when he said the "Many of the turths we cling to depend greatly upon our own point of veiw." But just because we perceive something as truth doesn't mean it truely is truth, take Christianity versus Islam for instance, they both claim to have the only truth. That logically means one of them must be wrong, I have chosen Islam as the incorrect faith, and Christianity as the true way to Life. I am more than willing to answer challenges and questions.
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Post by Empress Palpatine on Sept 10, 2007 22:06:25 GMT -5
SITH = CHAOS thats pretty much all you can say and its a ideal description of any Sith Lately that would seem to be the case. Some peculiar irrationality has taken hold. It does not need to be the case. In fact, a real functional Sith would have to be a rational being. Palpatine was rational. He could make things work.
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Post by sylux on Sept 11, 2007 23:27:48 GMT -5
why yes you are right in that a sith should be ratinol and clear headed but he had to be that way for he was right in front of the Jedi most of the time and he didnt even give away his postion..thats some real talent there.
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Post by darthxul on Mar 11, 2008 14:46:00 GMT -5
It seems that there are two sides to this (and every) question. Yes the sith are intelligent, rational beings. In fact, it is easy to see that some sith would be the same types of people who cannot accept the normal answers that their culture gives to spiritual questions. Their minds are too active, too curious. They have a need to know, and the will to gain knowledge even if it flies in the face of what they were raised to believe. In other words, they are the same people who are seekers, gnostics, and so forth. On the other hand, there are those who are sith because of their base emotions. They are hateful, angry, and filled with emotions that they cannot control. These never become masters, they have no paticence for learning the finer details that are required for mastery.
Further the question of what it is to be sith should also have some bearing on the physical and emotional aspects of those who follow the dark path. A sith is one who either is unable to find balance (as in the second example above) or one who rationally finds balance in the darkness instead of the light (which is the case of the first example). The insistence on light is intresting as it is a factor for both the jedi and most modern mainstream religions with darkness always being protrayed as evil. I personally do not think that all sith think of themselves as evil, as dark certianly, but not evil. Evil is a perceptive term and most people apply that to those who are against them. Hence to the germans in world war II america was evil, while to the allies the nazi's held the same possition.
Yes the sith are Chaos, but not chaotic. Chaos is creative and order is stagnative, striving to maintain the status quo. The sith, in this sense, embody the force much more than the jedi do.
Empress Palpatine and sylux - I would like to interject that Darth Bane (see Darth Bane: Path of Destruction) was very intelligent, coniving as well.
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Post by Gradium Kildreth on Mar 12, 2008 21:00:13 GMT -5
Yes the sith are Chaos, but not chaotic. Chaos is creative and order is stagnative, striving to maintain the status quo. The sith, in this sense, embody the force much more than the jedi do. I think this statement covers what we are. Chaos was what the world began with, and it is what it will end with. So, in that sense... doesn't that mean the Force is Chaos? If Chaos was before, during, and after... is that NOT what the Force is to us too: An entity that witch combines all from the beginning of time to the end, which takes the form of a creator, mother, and destroyer? I believe that the Force never is stagnant. It moves and changes. If it didn't, the world would be the same as it was 4 billion years ago.
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Post by darthxul on Mar 12, 2008 21:23:09 GMT -5
gradium - I agree with you on that, however, the main point I was making was the two different types of people who could be attracted to the dark side (responding to the preceding posts. The force is vital essence and life, it is active and never passive. This is a point that I think would be interesting in a larger discussion with both sith and jedi participating, unfortunately I doubt either side would come to much of a consensus on it, however, the points where differences emerge would be a good place to search for the fundamental differences between the two points of view.
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Post by Gradium Kildreth on Mar 15, 2008 21:13:18 GMT -5
Correct, but the question will arise... which view is better? And, if one is found, will that change anybody's minds? Good questions to ponder.
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Post by darthxul on Mar 16, 2008 8:25:07 GMT -5
yes they are good questions, just like all philosophical and religous questions are, but then there is which is closer to true (though both are synthetic) and truth weighs heavily in these issues, though most people never step far enough outside of their box to even realize what truth is
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Post by raigus on Mar 26, 2008 14:59:02 GMT -5
Interesting way of putting things. However, I believe that following the way of the Force is not a religion but a way of life and how you use your power. I follow the path laid down by the Sith that inspired me to walk the path I do. Darth Bane was a true visionary I believe and he set down the true path to follow as Sith.
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Post by raigus on Mar 28, 2008 15:12:03 GMT -5
Ah, but if we were meant to know of it but not use it as we see fit then why are we able to control it at all I ask you?
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