The problem is you

[sciwiz12]

the title may seem cruel but I'll go into detail as to why it is so named. I was attempting to teach someone how to move a psi wheel inorder to get the hang of psychokinesis, however I noticed that even though I could easily do it, he had a great deal of difficulty getting himself to believe that he had the capability, despite me telling him that he had the capability. It finally dawned on me what the problem was, so I took him through the process of hypnotic suggestion so that rather than seeing himself as being the incapable and unfit weakling, he saw himself as a sith, through and through. Convinced that he was a sith and that the dark side flowed through him, he actually very artfully spun the wheel on its axis, I was impressed with the fact that he was able to make the change, though not dramatically or drastically, he still couldn't make himself believe that he had the power to move a book or something, but suffice it to say, that what you believe you will achieve, so if you believe that the energy of the dark side flows strongly through you and that you can move objects at will, and it becomes your reality, you will be able to do it, provided you are aware of the energy required to do so.

[taeman3]

how did you hypnotize him?

[sciwiz12]

I didn't hypnotize him persay, I already knew self-hypnotism and taught him how that works, of course you could probably just look up self hypnotism, it shouldn't be that hard to find over the internet.

[Mrs. Darth Vader]

What you believe is what you can do is only true from a certain point of view and has it's limits. For example if you believe that you can fly with all your heart, soul and strength, it will not happen. As soon as you jump off the building you will head towards the earth at an excellerated rate. As the Newton joke goes, Splat, Squared. You have to remember when believing something that you are limited to the laws of physics. Also biology is a key role which no one wants to admit. I noticed that there are a small number of people who can actually do telekinetic activity. Many people have the ability to feel psychically. Some can feel nothing. Science has in fact found genes that allow these things to be done but if you do not have these genes you can try forever and get no where.

[sciwiz12]

Well, from all that we know today, I would have to agree with you, certainly I have not proven that someone can fly, so this next video is up to your own interpretation. www.youtube.com/watch?v=tW6pVFOpE6Q
this is not an attempt to prove you wrong, obviously there's no way to say that man is actually levitating or no. I simply hope to cast a shadow of doubt on your assumptions. Surely none of us have ever witnessed that human flight is possible for ourselves, and there is no reason to be sure of its existance. In fact, unless you see such a thing and have the opportunity to test it's legitamacy, I assert this is not to be wholly believed. Though, as much as we in the western and highly civilized world may disbelieve in fanciful tails of flight and mystical powers that defy physics, many stories have been passed down through the ages that make claims of human flight or levitation, in fact, these are not only claims of the past, but claims of what we see as developing nations. It is possible that we can all fly, though I wouldn't stake my life on it, and true that belief is not everything, but without that highly essential tool, it is quite possible that either no powers exist or those that do exist may not manifest without at least the aid of strong belief. It's gotta be backed up by something, but the force itself, as many claims as we make sighting what seems like incontravertable evidence of its existence, is highly debatable. As well, going into more semantical arguments, I would say that you have no proof that your solid physical world is anything more than a figment of your imagination. To a large extent, it is, when you push on a door, there really is no door, your particles are repelling the particles in the door, causing the entire host of particles in the door move, and to a further extent, those particles aren't even there, according to some more recent theories having been expressed, such particles are merely vibrations in a field which create tiny sub-atomic base particles called super strings. Your physical world is nothing more than a vibration, what may happen in a large vibration, who knows, granted, you can't take everything at face value, but at the very least we know as much as to say that we don't truly "KNOW" what's physically possible and physically not possible. Especially for one who rather than being strictly socratic or strictly stoic you dance the fine line in between. That's a perfect place to be, but there is no questioning the fact that we cannot say what is impossible because any living being lays down physical law.

[Mrs. Darth Vader]

Lets put it this way. Many times a person has jumped off a building only to be severely injured or dead. So evidence would support the side of caution as not to engage in such activity if you wish to be alive and healthy.

Yes on the sub-atomic level everything might be just vibrating strings. Even Brian Greene in the film version of "The Elegant Universe" admits that in order to go threw the door you may have to wait billions of years. You are counting on Quantum Uncertainty. Unfortunately Quantum Uncertainty is not as unpredictable and willy nilly as in Biology. The way the universe is set in balance by things like Gluons in the world of the very small and Einstein's Grid in the world of the very large it is very hard to over come the laws of physics. You are right to look in the world of Quantum Mechanics because that is where the highest chance for the unusual to occur. Then there is where Hawking is willing to look. He is looking at what is out side our Time-space continuum. Hawking is also trying to see what happened before the "Big Bang". These answers will be very crucial.

I always advocate a healthy dose of skepticism with a good imagination. This combination will give you the ability to ask any question you want and dream of any hope you have at the same time keep a level head as not to do anything dangerous, foolish or life threatening while on your search. It is fine to ask "Can I do telekinesis"? Is it possible? What powers can I actually have? Is this real or in my head? Is there a God? Is there no God? Does physics allow for any of this? Ask and search any where you like. This is a scientific process. Scientists ask many questions and try to get many answers.. It is just if you use a more scientific approach you will take a little slower but you will not put your face in a fan. Leaps of faith can be dangerous because if it is based in a belief that man can fly with out the aid of an air plane or glider than that faith is dangerous. Some people believe that they will never die and live in their bodies for ever. This kind of faith is dangerous if as a result you walk in front of a speeding car believing your self to be Superman. So investigate everything. Try to see if you can actually wield the Force. Enjoy any attempt you want just keep your feet on the ground while doing it. Quantum Mechanics is fun to study and if it aids and abets your growth than by all means do it. Enjoy it in fact. I enjoyed reading "The Elegant Universe" myself. If God is in fact descivered by open minded physicists like Stephen Hawking and others I will except it. If not I will except that as well. I see nothing wrong with finding God or no God by the means of science.

[sciwiz12]

Well, I do thank you for not condemning my perspective, and in the same token I would never criticize the scientific method, I think observation is a wonderful thing, that observation has helped us to explain many things we otherwise might associate with gods, which no matter howmuch you believe in them, don't run from giant snakes whenever the sun has set. You also have a point that believing that you can fly shouldn't prompt illogical action, of course the people who would jump off of a cliff in order to show they can fly have either been brainwashed or they're stupid to begin with. That you can't fix with all the scientific theory in the world, the man who leaps in front of a bus because he thinks he's invincible wants to be invincible so badly that they are no longer in their right minds. I of course, like to combine observation with belief, I believe that my mind has the ability to move objects, when I attempt to move a small object or spin a psi wheel, they move in the manner I believed that they would, I continue this process several times concluding at the end that when I desire to move a small object or spin a psi wheel in a certain direction, they will move in that direction. It would on the one hand be foolish of me to generalize this and say that I have extreme telekinetic powers and try to stop a bus with my powers, but the conclusion that small object move in the way I wish them to move isn't so far fetched. Taking into account that they don't otherwise move in such ways, it may also be safe to conclude that they move in such a fashion because I wish them to move in such a fashion. However as not everyone moves small object upon command, and as I am simply human, same blood and tissue as everyone else, there must therefore, provided all else is correct, be a component developed and not natural to the human condition. I would the mind, perhaps I'm wrong, who's to say. If all else is not entirely accurate, it may easily be challanged by others with contrary explanations, however mine seems to hold up for the time being.

[Mrs. Darth Vader]

sciwiz
If you have actually moved small objects than you have the ability to do telekinesis. I just do not believe that all humans can do telekinesis. I believe that certain DNA and intermediary factors are needed as expressed by Carl Sagan in his book called "Dragons of Eden". I know that I can not do telekinesis on any level and I certainly tried and was highly motivated. On the other hand I know this women who her mother could do telekinesis. She can do it. Her niece can do it and the nieces son can do it. This shows that it is hereditary which traces back to the DNA factor. I just do not believe that all humans can do all magics. The reason your new age and magic books say everyone can do this is to simply sell books. Imagine if they told the truth that only some people can actually do this than few books would sell and since publishing is about sales than they must lie and claim that all people can do this. Scientists do not lie here because their book sails are not dependent on people dreaming of the "powers" that they wish to wield. This is my opinion based on direct experiance and long research.

[sciwiz12]

Well, on the one hand it could potentially be a gentic trait specific to select groups of individuals, that would certainly be a pride booster for my ego, I can tell you that much. In this instance however I'm not entirely convinced that my genetic code carries any strand that produces any chemical affecting any organ or system which might cause an object to rotate, or move in any form or fashion. I think instead rather, that it is an effect produced by the mind, or the mind's connection with the force. My parents never expressed telekinetic abilities, nor my grandparents, nor any relative before myself to my knowledge. Infact I have catholics on one side that would shun such a thing as witch craft and on the other side, simple and down to earth types that haven't the time, nor lack of drama to develop such a skill. I tried for years to do it, I couldn't figure out how it was to be accomplished, some people said visualize, some people said focus, not really the most useful pieces of advice I've ever recieved. Finally I just did what I was most familiar with, I can most easily project energy from my hands, it's always been fun for me to do ever since I learned how to make a psiball, I projected the energy at a psiwheel, and rather than neccessarily focus on the object, I became more and more aware of the energy, rather than connecting with the object and moving it like I would move my own hand I connected with the energy around the object and use that to push with my mind, or pull, or whatever I needed to make it move in the manner I wished it to move. It was an inspired "Aha!" moment for me, and all of the times I read people's articles suggesting that I had to find my own way finally made sense to me, because I had found my own way. All of the times I had failed now culminated in one huge success. Practice makes perfect, it takes energy to do work (from a scientific point of view, physics, simple mechanics). Maybe I'm just special, or maybe anyone who wants to use telekinesis just has to keep trying until they get it.

[Empress Palpatine]

There could be people who do have the predisposition but have not attempted it. In that case one has to open the door to all people saying to go for it. Some will do it, and some will not. I would love to see a large scale experiment conducted with large numbers of persons and see what characterizes those who can vs. those who can't.

I think it probably relates in some way to electromagnetism. The brain's electricity is about 25 watts (according to Carl Sagan). I believe that human beings, like magnets, have polarities. It could be possible to have enough of a charge to create a field that can move something, much like a magnet.

There was a time I toyed with telekinesis. It was a casual matter because I met some guy who had a brass pendulum. He would hold the chain with his hand and ask a question. Then he would watch which direction it would move in to indicate "yes" or "no." I started trying it and got similar results. He believed one unconsciously moved their hand as opposed to actual telekinesis. I felt otherwise. To prove it, I attached it to a neutral object and tried to move it. I did, winning the debate. I remember doing it in forms of a series of taps until it swung more and more. A single tap did not so much, but a series of taps were cumulative and did move it. I was very tired afterwords, though and was not eager to repeat it. It turns out that the method of using a series of taps (I read years later) to get a big result was an approach that Tesla used.

[sciwiz12]

A series of taps you say? I've got to try that for myself, it's kind of difficult to explain what it felt like for me, I remember I came up with the idea while ironically reading a starwars novel, each of the characters described their powers through the term pushing. Even if it wasn't telekinesis they might want to affect someone's emotions, but it was still a push, they might lightly push when they wanted to stir and influence a large crowd or heavily push if they were trying to control a singler person. The other description was flowing. These two things in mind, when I finally did accomplish my goals of telekinesis, I finally found out what the pushing was like. I would project the energy, and my entire awareness would shift to the energy, ignoring the object, ignoring the people around me, I had to in order for it to work, then I concentrated, it even felt like I had to tense my brain, my hand started to shake, I don't know if it was controlable, cuz I didn't try to control it. From there I just wanted it to move, that part is the hardest to explain, I really did push it with my thoughts, with the energy, with something, I could feel the object moving, I wasn't touching it, it wasn't creating a gust, I could feel or I suppose you might say "sense" the paper wheel, but I wouldn't say I had become one with it, I might want it to spin left so I made the energy turn the wheel left, then right, then stop. Then to experiment I took my hand out of the equation and projected the energy with my head, left, right, stop, as long as I had something to project the energy and the will to push, it would move as I willed. At first it took a little bit of strain, but after a while it just became a game, and I had to focus and concentrate less and less. If only I could properly describe the sensation, the feeling of it. A part of me had a great deal of trouble navigating the energy, because I had trouble while sensing the dimensions of the fabric around me, but that's when I realized that whether it was particles or energy or some part of a connected field, the wheel was there, I could feel it through and through, as if I were touching the paper, and the particles that made up the paper and the air that surrounded the paper. I don't know if it was that I was connected to it, I tried to imagine that I and the paper were one, and that I was moving a part of myself, but imagination, visualization they really played no part in what I was doing. I was becoming less aware of myself, more aware of the energy, the makeup of the physical materials, and I pushed them, it was like moving a part of me and at the same time I could feel it's distinction in space, it was seperate from me, and I had to project the force that moved it. This can sadly be described through one of the philosophies of the force, that there is a personal force that is connected to life, and an impersonal or universal force connected to all. I projected the personal from withing myself, and it reacted with the impersonal, the make up, what is all around me, my soul touched the field and pushed it. I'm getting way too philosophical and dry for you guys by now, it doesn't really mean anything if you don't know how to use or apply it. Practicality is the name of the game, what can I do now to achieve what I want in life, how is this input useful to meeting my goals, what are my goals, these are the types of factors that will innevitably lead to the conclusion that this information is useless. Nobody will fully understand it unless they themselves have performed telekinesis, and if they have, it's useless to them because they already either understand and know this to be true or they disagree because their experience was far different from mine. Because there are none who know how to apply it, it becomes essentially useless practiacally. There is however one more instance I'd like to share, it's a power I used to wield as a child, out of mere impatience. I believe I may have already posted my tale of it, once a while back, but I cannot recall. As a boy, and even as I got older, I couldn't stand long waits, and so when my computer was performing a task, I would watch the loading bar, which as we all know as mature adults is not physically there, it is just a projection displayed as a result of the data given to the moniter, it is an electrical signal that only looks like a progressing bar. However, through my impatience, I found that by looking at the bar, and using the same technique as on the psiwheel, this time pulling the bar towards the end, I could indeed seem to cause my wait to shorten, but that is too easily explained, what however may be of intrigue to some though admittedly still as easily explainable through common reason is that every time I would attempt this method through impatience rather than the computer loading the specified program, it would instead malfunction, an error would occur, that's why I didn't have to wait, because it would almost instantly cause my computer to have a loading error, and for a time afterwards perform tasks more slowly. My mind attempted to move a thing which is not physically there and the energy still tampered with what was physically there. Curiously, while my previous comments may have no practical use, should you buy into the fact that an early adolescent attempt at telekinesis, or in this case psychokinesis worked (albeit improperly) without having a real object on which to focus the energies, then it makes sense to reason that the same force behind telekinesis, when applied to mental concepts, will function rather similarly. If what I have said is true, then all abilities that use this energy, this force, having the same source, are in reality the same power. It's like taking two blocks of ice, and making on into a sculpture of a swan and the other into a snowman, they may be of different shapes, but they are still blocks of ice, and they will both melt eventually. That's pretty much all I have to say, excuse my ranting, I hope that this may be of use to someone.

[Empress Palpatine]

There was one time I tried with a computer. This was back in the old days before there was even the windows system, in the early 1980's. There was this fellow who had a personal computer and who did programming. He made an image that had four quadrants and a dot that traveled around the four quadrants at random. I noticed that if I concentrated on moving the dot to a particular quadrant, it went there more often. I found that quite interesting. It could be that when you "pushed" the progress bar to go faster, you messed it up because the computer could not do that. Computers are so much more complex now. Perhaps if you found a computer program with a random element that you could try to influence, you may get a result.

The idea of turning a wheel sounds interesting and also all the ways you tried to manipulate energy to do so. Early electricians were doing much the same thing with early motors and generators. It was a good hundred years or so before any machine was actually useful for something; so, lesson number one, don't worry about the practical use of what it is you do. That comes later.

Some of the early electric devices are funky placements of magnets next to copper wires in all sorts of configurations to maximize the "push." The ones that worked came down to perfectly timed and balanced pushes.

These little toys inspire a certain visualization of forces:

(If you do not have Java, available free, you may need to put it on your computer to see these.)

www.magnet.fsu.edu/education/tutorials/java/barlowswheel/index.html

www.magnet.fsu.edu/education/tutorials/java/faradaymotor/index.html

www.magnet.fsu.edu/education/tutorials/java/leydenjar/index.html

www.magnet.fsu.edu/education/tutorials/java/pixiimachine/index.html

The page witht the list of all the machines as well as a link to the free Java:

www.magnet.fsu.edu/education/tutorials/java/index.html

The device that led to modern generators and machines:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=brNBVDCeECg

It is hard to find moving illustrations of fields in motion, but here is one:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=naaeDJLcxgs&feature=related

The only difference from some of these machines, I think, is that human psi ability is likely much more subtle. I think the positive electric/magnetic polarity is a "push" feel or more subtly, a "filling" or "full" sensation. The negative polarity is a "pull" or more subtly an "emptying" feeling.

Try this. I tried this one day and got some interesting results: I took two magnets that were fairly strong magnets and pointed to ends toward each other. First I did + - so as to have them pull together. I felt how the pulling felt. I drew them apart until I did not feel it. I observed the first subtle pulling as I brought them back towards each other. I noted that feeling. I did the opposite and had them repel each other and noted when I felt the first subtle resistance. That subtlest feeling feels similar to the psychic equivalents. This sort of gets you used to what to feel for. I also noticed that using the magnets like this causes one to open or close the chakras. Playing with magnets can have an effect on ones own personal field.

If you are in a very sensitive frame of being, it is possible to feel the earth's magnetic field. There is a direction of flow, but it is very subtle. This has basis in reality as birds can sense it.

[Darth Draconis]

Bump...

[Konkor]

If you do not believe in a Creator then I will prove to you the existence of One,but first I would like to bring in to recognition the difference between a personal conscious Deity compared to an impersonal conscious less force:

A significant debate within the pantheistic community is about the use of the word "God." Pantheists do not believe in a God in the common and traditional sense of a personal creator being. Some modern Pantheists avoid using God-words altogether, since they regard them as misleading. Others feel that the word God is essential to express the strength of their feelings towards Nature and the Universe.

Pantheism is little more than a redefinition of the word "God" to mean "Nature," "Universe", or "reality".

In Pantheism the word God, when used, is more an expression of the user's feelings rather than of some supernatural power in the Universe.

When pantheism is considered as an alternative to theism there is a denial of theistic claims. For example, theism is the belief in a "personal" God that transcends (is separate from) the world. Pantheists deny the existence of a personal God. They deny the existence of a "minded" Being that has intentional states and associated capacities like the ability to make decisions.
Source:http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pantheism?wasRedirected=true#cite_note-SEP-16

Traditional theism takes the view that God and the world are different. Pantheism, on the other hand would say God and the world are one and the same, that God IS an active part of the world.
As a religious view, it could be very harmful. If God is an active part of the world, as claimed by pantheism, then he is a very vengeful god who takes joy in causing misfortune. Ontologically, it would make it impossible to identify and affirm God's saving presence. Additionally, it would negate the in-finiteness of God. the world being a finite place, and God being infinite. At least, that's two flaws I can identify.
Though pantheists do go to great length to differentiate the essence of God being different than God. It lacks cohesion at that point, for me. You cannot claim on the one hand that God is in the world and the world is in God, and then claim that you are speaking of the essence of God.

Now that I have a definition of what it really means to be a God(to be conscious),I would like to put forth the logical evidence of the existence of an all powerfully,conscious,transcendent Creator and Sustainer.

www.carm.org/discussion-logical-absolutes-proof-gods-existence

www.proofthatgodexists.org/main.php

www.calvindude.com/index.php?id=51

www.calvindude.com/index.php?id=52

What ever I say,even though there is Proof for it,you do not accept.
I have accepted that I cannot prove my Christian God,but instead have found proof for an all powerful,conscious,transcendent Creator and Sustainer.
If you do not believe the FACTS than it is a Fact that you are with out help.
There is an all powerful conscious Creator.
There is proof that there is one.
Only in Monotheism is their a Deity which matches the requirements.
Which ever religion has the true view of the all powerful,conscious,transcendent Creator and Sustainer is left to find out,but they all have similar qualities,one of which is the wrath exacted by the Creator on those which do not worship and follow the laws given by the Creator.
I worship a sole Creator,the Christian God,and Him alone.
You do not worship the Creator in any way shape or form and I am sure that "He" is ready to exact judgment on you and your life,whether it be after you die,in some place of punishment,such as the Christian Hell,or during your life now,after all everything is possible for the one who created everything and the concept of everything.

Take a look at this site to see what the Bible says about religions like new age-
jesus-is-savior.com/False%20Religions/false_religions.htm#mormon

Also,look what the Bible(Deuteronomy18:10-13) says about many things practiced by new agers-
www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?passage=Deuteronomy+18%3A10-13

All should Fear the Lord.
Fear of the Lord is the beginning of Wisdom.
The Book of Proverbs is dedicated to Wisdom:
www.letgodbetrue.com/proverbs/index.htm