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Post by Tai-Da on Dec 5, 2009 11:34:52 GMT -5
i disagree to an extent. you said that Jedi should be against using this. no they shouldn't. Yes the code states There is no emotion there is peace but that does not mean we do not have or use emotions. We contol our emotions so we can act of peace. We do not get our emotions involved in other people's problems as we would not be peace keeping. But Jedi do use emotions.
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Post by Empress Palpatine on Dec 5, 2009 16:43:46 GMT -5
There is a duality about emotions. Sometimes they work for you, and other times they trip you up and induce you to do something dumb. The trick is to know which is which, when to turn them off and when to turn them on.
As human beings, if we could but control our "buttons," we'd increase our abilities many-fold.
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Post by Tai-Da on Dec 5, 2009 17:29:20 GMT -5
yes i do agree with you on that point yes. but the jedi and emotions i do not agree.
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sciwiz12
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Post by sciwiz12 on Dec 5, 2009 22:18:05 GMT -5
When I first noticed that there was some dissagreement on this thread about what jedis should and shouldn't believe I was planning on giving some phenominal speech about how the individuals beliefs on how the force and those that practice connecting with it don't matter because the true nature of the universe is not understood and that in essence everyone will have their own seperate beliefs anyway. However, after reading through more carefully, I must say I do agree that jedis "should" be against the use of emotions, or rather, against using them personally, regardless of who else utilizes their power. However, if those claiming to be jedi also claim to use emotions as fuel, even sometimes, then they fit the description of gray jedi more closely than actual jedi. The jedi code does state after all that there is no emotion, there is only serenity. The very core belief of the jedi as I have come to understand it is to become a vessel through which the force, specifically the light side of the force, acts, through which it's power flows. Whether this be for the aim of protecting life, really becomes trivial unless the jedi is an officer of the law and or a fireman or soldier. But the concept remains the same, just as in judeo-christian beliefs, relinquish the self as much as possible, and let the force use you rather than you using the force. To have emotion is to have desire, and desire brings suffering, if you are happy, you are happy about something, that something may be gained just as much as it may be lost, being happy is an indication that you desire and therefore will suffer at the loss of what makes you happy. I myself through my own practices have felt emotions through energy, I have held happiness in the palm of my hand so to speak, and I can say that to feel happiness is one matter in and of itself, but to be happy requires things, people, all of which may be stripped from you at a moments notice. To be a jedi is to disconnect so to speak, to not require happiness, to not require emotion, but to listen intuitively for the force's instructions, to simply be in the present, so that you may act on the will of the force, if such a will truely exists. So that when good or bad things occur, these are the will of the force, and you will act as you know you should. A good way to tap into your intuitive sense is to simply ask yourself what you should do, internally of course, but inquire perhaps what the force may want of you, or just ask what your next move should be, what should you be doing right now. A response will come, you know the answer somewhere inside of yourself, there is what you are feeling, what you are thinking, and what you intuitively know to be true. So by disregarding what you think intellectually, which you should know is always born of selfishness, and what you feel emotionally, which always will lead you to seek satisfaction in some way shape or form, you listen to something else, what you know. Now I fear saying that, because what I know to be true may be born simply of my own experience, so the answer I get back will never have to do with murder or any sort of crime, however this may not be the case for everyone. Still, being guarded would not prevent any events which may happen. At any rate, I have said this because it is important to draw a line between what a jedi is and what a sith is, at least if we have both it is important to draw the line. Or we could just all call ourselves something else, gray jedi, sages, priests of the force, wisdom seekers, monks, ashla knights, etc... However, while we remain jedi and sith, there is always a distinction made, sith use emotions, because in their code there is no peace, jedi resist emotion, because to have emotion is to resist the call of the force, to have a will, to have desire, and to suffer. In a sense, jediism is the true religion, sithism is a magical practice, like comparing the bible to the kabbalah.
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Post by Konkor on Jun 7, 2010 14:14:04 GMT -5
What are we doing? We are all going on like a bunch of Star Wars NERDS. I was Blind but now I SEE.There is no such thing as the Law of Attraction. If you really think that you have the potential of A god...than you are going to burn in the lake of fire knowing all the false things you have beleived in and followed instead of beleiving in the Eternal God most Holy and His Only Son,Eternally begotten,and the Holy Spirit ,Who comes forth from the Father and the Son, and makes His Dwelling in The Heart of Christians,whom they all make Three Persons Yet One God.None of us can fully understand the Trinity because it is out side the natural laws God has set upon his creation.The law of attraction is one of the many new age tricks satan uses to lead people away from God and to corruption and Eternal Damnation.Satan has 1/3 of all the angel in heaven under his domion as demons.The number of angels are enough to be inumerable.All these dammed unholy creatures dedicate their lives to our corruption.Through these "lowering brain waves and visuilization" you are making yourself accesible for them to enter and assume some form of control which can not be reversible by yourself.EVERYTHING in the Bible is TRUE.I have given you the info and if you do not accept Christ to bear your Sins than you have no excuse during your judgement and you will be cast into the Lake of Fire to spend an eternity screaming in real real REAL PAIN! Let me clear up some other lies.. God is not energy,everything,or love. God is the creator of every concept we have including time and the laws of commen sense.He is beyond your understanding but you can come to know him only through Jesus.As Christ said,No one gets to the Father but through me. God is NOT LOVE.God HAS LOVE but God also HAS JUSTICE and will punish the sinful and wicked.God loved the world so much that he gave his only son to die for us that anyone who believes in him may have eternal lifeMay you accept Jesus so that You too will raptured up with the resurected dead followers of Christ and all those followers who are alive, and may you not be one of the people left behind,for they will suffer God's wrath on earth and then there souls will be thrust into the lake of Fire to burn for eternity...
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Post by Konkor on Jun 8, 2010 8:44:21 GMT -5
DO NOT TRY TO MIX UP YOUR NEWAGE,PSYCHIC,MAGICK OR WHATEVER OTHER FALSE BELIEFS YOU HAVE INTO THE TRUTH SO THAT YOU HAVE SOME PERVERSE NOTION OF GOD AND HIS WORD.God is not make up everything.Everything is God's Creation,and therefore God is beyond our limited understanding.God does not have to exist anywhere we want him.God is above the law of common sense.GOD IS CONSCIOUS!!!HE IS NOT A ENERGY THAT MAKES UP THE WHOLE UNIVERSE!!!GOD IS THE ONLY BEING WHO IS UNCREATED.Beleive in God and Jesus and the gift of salvation which they gave us,we are undeserving but They are ever Merciful,but they are also Righteous and must have Justice and those that do not accept jesus to bear their sins will not get into paradise but may be cast into the lake of Fire. If you do not understand or see flaws in Christianity or the Concept of a Creator,than the best advice I can give you is to go buy yourself a bible and start reading starting on Genisis 1:1.This could be the greatest step in your life.On the internet there are some Sites that allow you to search up a question along with an answer based entirely from the bible.A question some people ask is how can there be one God if there are three persons? Wellllll...In the New Testament,It is the first few verses of one of the gospels,I don't remember which one,anyway-In the beggining there was the word and the word was with God and the word was God.Elsewhere in the New testament,Jesus is called the word of God and even else where It says the word of God was made flesh.I am going to leave you here,you should go get a bible so you yourself can feel the excitment as you make the connections and discover the Truth and how God wants us to learn the Truth through his son Jesus who "The Father is in Him and Him in the Father. Peace be with you Thank you for reading
Praise the Lord!!!
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Post by Konkor on Jun 10, 2010 13:53:44 GMT -5
The End of Times has BEGUN.If you do not wake up from your imaginary"star wars world" and stop following New Age Beliefs,and accept Jesus as your Savior,THEN THE DAY WILL COME WHEN YOU WILL WISH YOU WERE NEVER BORN! "-the wages of sin is death-" "-the lake of fire is the second death" "-and they will burn in the lake of fire for eternity-" The Rapture may come soon and YOU may be left behind with your fate sealed to the lake of Fire.
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Post by Konkor on Jun 10, 2010 16:17:29 GMT -5
Some of you may think what teachings you are following are harmless but really they are fatal.What you are following is the OCCULT! And you should know that makes you an OCCULTIST.Some of you may say you are not,but look at what you are believing in.
-The law of attraction(magick)-this says(falsely by the way)that what you think or feel will attract into your life. If you you believe in this,than I want you to listen carefully to what I say. The TRUTH is...well let me give you a little backround information so you can then understand the truth...
The Bible says that the number of angels God created is enough to be innumerable...got it...good...movin on... The number of angels that fell from heaven with satan is 1/3 of all that God created...that still has to be more than all the humans who ever existed...because they aren't innumerable...whoa thats alot of demons...where do you think they are...angels Do Not Die...with all those demons there could be some assigned to each and every nonbeliever in the world...but not to the people of Christ...they can only get so close to Faithful Christians because CHRISTIANS HAVE,IN JESUS' NAME,POWER OVER THEM...isn't that great...they can not harm us because our Lord gave us power over them...yet Jesus told his apostles to not rejoice in this power but instead rejoice that your names are written in heaven(salvation)...back to the subject...it is the demons of the world who fullfil what you want...not because you think about them but because they think you think about them...they do this because you would them beleive this idea as true and accept other new age ideas as true...these are not what God has teached even though they may say(lie)that it is...Go ahead and sit down to do your visuilization or magick rituals as you normally do...except...do not do it in your mind...but make them think you are...they will carry out the thing...but what they do not know is that they are acctuallly bringing you closer to God and salvation instead of corrupting you...after you have assured yourself,I want you to throw away any occult books and delete any bookmarked occult site,then go to the store and buy a Bible,say a prayer that Jesus may enter into your life,then have faith that Jesus'death on the cross was the act of sacrafice that paid for all your sins.
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Post by Konkor on Jun 10, 2010 16:29:19 GMT -5
Anyone who comes to this site or is a practicer of Magick or follows any other New Age practices should read Deutoronomy 18,10-13
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Post by Konkor on Jun 11, 2010 18:01:37 GMT -5
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Post by Darth Vendetus on Jun 17, 2010 22:39:22 GMT -5
I'm trying to understand your concept of salvation and eternal life. If it is simply to live with God forever, then I reject it. If it is to live with Him without suffering, sadness and struggle, then I reject it. If it is to simply pet lambs and lions for all eternity, then I reject it.
The Sith have the correct idea: to achieve power. God has it. If we are his children, then we should have the opportunity to be like Him. That means the power he commands should be available to us. If not, what is the purpose of the universe? To never be anything of worth but simply pampered pets if we please a celestial master? No, I reject any doctrine that states that we are not meant to be beings of power, for how else can we be joint heirs with Christ if we accept his gospel?
If your concept of salvation states that we are to achieve some kind of power in the afterlife, that there is more to existence than simply existing, then please, elaborate. If not, please don't berate the people of this blog. Christ never berated anyone, but came to them in love and humility, and walked away when his message was rejected. Either learn his doctrines truthfully and share them instead of preach them, or please stop your attacks.
Perhaps you should even read some of what Lord Reignus posted ages ago here. From all that I have been able to see, he had it the most right, though he tended to get preachy.
Good luck on your quest, regardless. The truth has a way of being found by its honest seekers.
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Post by Konkor on Jun 18, 2010 10:22:05 GMT -5
For what shall it profit a man,if he shall gain the whole world,and lose his own soul? Mark 8:36 What do you mean by "power" What power do you have now? We are not meant to become gods. Thats the lie that the serpent(satan)used in the garden of eden. The LORD,God,is Almighty and AllPowerful. He Created the Heavens and the Earth and Man. Every concept our mind can grasp is inside the boundaries of his creation. The Lord is all powerful and wise. The whole earth is full of his glory. If you beleive in an all powerful concious God,than you should believe in the LORD(YHWH)of the Bible(GOD's word). I am sorry if I sound like I am preaching but where someone will spend Eternity is NO laughing matter! No one can really not know of God's existince if they are not ignorant of the world we live in.You should go to the site I have posted somewhere above,it proves that there is a concious allpowerful GOD. May be I am bothering you and maybe you want me to shut my mouth,and you can then continue playing pretend starwars,but I got one more thing to say and I think it might make you see at least a little bit more clearly...
...You want power,but how can you really understand what it is if you never really had it...
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Post by Darth Draconis on Jun 19, 2010 22:59:01 GMT -5
There is no single living creature that does not possess power, you included. Most of the preaching, on damnation, on proof of god, on redemption... well, to each their own, but to me it just seems like a bunch of babble, coming from nothing more than ill-developed, infantile perspectives on things such as power. Are you going to decide to brush your teeth tonight? If so, then you have power. However miscule, it is there whether you choose to see it or not; power is influence of one's reality... and I don't believe any living thing is lacking this.
My two cents...
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Post by Konkor on Jun 20, 2010 9:23:07 GMT -5
First if all,when you talk about power,you say it is the ability to influence one's reality.Why you say "one's reality",I don't know,because reality does not belong to only "one" but all of existance,reality is the same for everyone.I will replace "one's reality with a more understandable term such as-world around us-Power is the ability to influence the world around us.Also,we should add that the world is physical,right.Also we are physical ourselves and part of this world,right.Than ANYTHING we do is exercising out power(influencing our world). So you influence your reality by-brushing your teeth(your example)-typing on your computer-and chewing and gnashing your food... Whoa!What great power you have,mister!You so proved me wrong(sarcastically)HA HA HA. I revealed to you the LORD,creator of the Universe,so that you may follow his commands and worship him,as is right.Yet you refuse his existence even though I have given you proof!You should Know that you have no excuse when Judgement Day comes-You choose to worship yourself and your "power"(Ha Ha Ha),instead of Worsiping and Honoring The Allpowerful and All wise God,Creator of All That Is,The Lord YHWH
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Post by Konkor on Jun 20, 2010 9:32:19 GMT -5
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Post by Konkor on Jun 20, 2010 9:38:30 GMT -5
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Post by Konkor on Jun 20, 2010 9:59:49 GMT -5
home.flash.net/~evt/rapture.htmThe rapture may be coming very soon! Everyone needs to repent of their sins and accept Lord Jesus as their savior and follow the Lord's commandments.
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Post by Konkor on Jun 20, 2010 11:35:08 GMT -5
STOP PLAYING STARWARS! LOOK AT YOURSELF! YOU ARE PLAYING PRETEND -I am a jedi-peace man -I am a sith-power!I want power! (Satan brainwashed these nerds) I am sure I DO NOT WANT TO FIND OUT YOUR AGES,BUT LET ME SAY THIS,IF YOU ARE OVER 18,YOU HAVE A SERIOUS PROBLEM! THIS STARWARS GIG IS JUST A FRONT FOR NEW AGE BELIEFS! YOUR FOURM IS FULL OF PHSYHIC MUMBO JUMBO! FOLLOWING THESE GODLESS BELIEFS IS A ONE WAY TICKET TO THE LAKE OF FIRE! REPENT OF YOUR SINS,ACCEPT LORD JESUS CHRIST,AND FOLLOW THE LORD'S COMMANDS AND YOU ARE SAVED! PRAISE THE LORD!!!
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Post by Konkor on Jun 20, 2010 19:53:13 GMT -5
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Post by bennyb84 on Jun 20, 2010 20:02:41 GMT -5
I realize your into god and all that but why do it here this is a site for people who want to learn about the force from a different prespective then the movies did. I don't mind free speach but if you keep talking about god and nothing but that then you shouldn't be here.
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