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Post by Alena on Dec 28, 2006 12:48:41 GMT -5
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Post by taichiyoda on Dec 29, 2006 11:39:38 GMT -5
Excellent book, I have it and read it several times, there is something in there for everyone to use along there path.
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Post by christopher on Jan 10, 2007 17:02:10 GMT -5
I actually found this book to be somewhat disappointing, as I do with most "THIS movie relates to THIS religion in THIS way" books.
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Post by Draco on Feb 1, 2007 16:59:59 GMT -5
Well that is what happens with such religious and other people stuck in a ideology, everything has to be re-framed to fit their lens of internalized belief system, it is a form of intellectual rape.
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Post by Volund Starfire on Feb 3, 2007 11:12:46 GMT -5
I have just finished reading it as part of a report for both my philosophy and religion classes. It is a very interesting book and contains much in the way of philosophical and religious wisdoms.
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Post by trine on Feb 6, 2007 19:06:05 GMT -5
I don't doubt it is intriguing yet I have not read it. I find the christian religion has too much strife, war, and suffering tied to it and I'd rather not take any of it's wisdom for my own. I'm sure there is some wisdom I do share with it but I don't read the texts to find it and intertwine it in to my beliefs. I am a extremely proud Norse pagan and and therefore somewhat biased against them even though my mother raised me a baptist. I've seen little good come from christianity. As examples with their lack of just wisdom I use the crusades and the inquisition as prime examples of their immorality and blind bigotry.
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Post by Volund Starfire on Feb 6, 2007 20:43:15 GMT -5
I respect your belief, however please do not let the actions of the church be confused with the teachings of the religion. It is unfortunate, but all too common, for this to happen.
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Post by Draco on Feb 7, 2007 21:09:39 GMT -5
Luke19:27 "But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me."-jesus. Looks like the church was doing jesus's will after all. I respect your belief, however please do not let the actions of the church be confused with the teachings of the religion. It is unfortunate, but all too common, for this to happen. |
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Post by Ahweh on Feb 8, 2007 0:02:36 GMT -5
Luke 19:27 is attached to the parable of the pound and has nothing to do with the English Crusades or the Spanish Inquisition. This passage cannot be taken by it's self because it is a part of the whole. If one really understood the parable of the pound and Jesus one would realise that phrase has nothing to do with killing.
Ahweh
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Post by Draco on Feb 8, 2007 12:51:03 GMT -5
Apologetics to the side, jesus was pretty straight foreword simply kill those who will not accept him as their saviour. Luke 19:27 is attached to the parable of the pound and has nothing to do with the English Crusades or the Spanish Inquisition. This passage cannot be taken by it's self because it is a part of the whole. If one really understood the parable of the pound and Jesus one would realise that phrase has nothing to do with killing. Ahweh |
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Post by Ahweh on Feb 8, 2007 20:20:09 GMT -5
The message of the parable of the pound is about what God has given you as in the gifts you were given. If you don't use and strengthen your gifts they will be taken away from you. That is what Luke 19:27 "As for my enemies who did not want me for their king, bring them here and execute them in my presence." means. From the New Jerusalem Bible.
Ahweh
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Post by Draco on Feb 9, 2007 13:20:09 GMT -5
Nope he just stated kill the unbelievers. The message of the parable of the pound is about what God has given you as in the gifts you were given. If you don't use and strengthen your gifts they will be taken away from you. That is what Luke 19:27 "As for my enemies who did not want me for their king, bring them here and execute them in my presence." means. From the New Jerusalem Bible. Ahweh |
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Post by Ahweh on Feb 9, 2007 18:04:25 GMT -5
Tearing apart the bible and using it for our own gratification has been one of mans greatest downfalls. The parables are for teaching us a hidden meaning and if we tear them apart and use bits and pieces as we see fit then we are no better than than the devil himself. Being an ordained minister helps me to understand Jesus and his teachings better than some.
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Post by trine on Feb 9, 2007 18:38:48 GMT -5
I hope you weren't ordained at the ULC. They have no authority or right to sell anything, and whats worse is that they try to sell even the title of jedi as if it could be achieved in any way other than through the self.
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Post by Draco on Feb 10, 2007 15:43:13 GMT -5
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Post by setiishadim on Feb 19, 2007 0:44:03 GMT -5
First, I am not a Christian in any way, shape or form. That said, why is Christianity being attacked here? Yes, there was the Spanish Inquisition, the Crusades, annihilation of the Cathars, and the cold blooded murder of Hypatia. Yet there was also the Sistine Chapel, The Last Supper by DaVinci, the poetry of William Blake & Milton, etc. But this is the Research Center & Christians (Or those who find wisdom in Christianity) should not have to defend themselves in a book report.  -Seti p.s. Theres nothing wrong with ULC & I am an ordained minister through the Church (amongst others) |
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Post by trine on Feb 19, 2007 0:51:46 GMT -5
Well just recently I saw Lucas dropping a lawsuit on ULC for selling the titlle.
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Post by setiishadim on Feb 19, 2007 5:21:14 GMT -5
Where did you see this?
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Post by trine on Feb 19, 2007 9:55:34 GMT -5
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Post by setiishadim on Feb 19, 2007 10:42:34 GMT -5
Excellent. I stand corrected. For everyone else who is too lethargic to click the link  , Lucas is indeed suing, or preparing to sue, ULC for copyright infringement. I will edit my earlier post accordingly. -Seti |
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